Correspondence with a Pastor
The following is the correspondence (on VPP) between a
member of a BP church and a pastor of a reformed church of over 23 years.
The BP member believes that the academic dean of the FEBC is preaching
another gospel (Gal.1:8). He wrote to the pastor to seek his view
regarding Jeffrey Khoo’s article (A plea for a perfect bible) and also VPP.
From: Pastor------
To: "Philip Tang" <-----@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 100%perfectKJV. Quotations of Jeff Khoo teaching.
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:47:57 +0800
Hi Philip,
Thanks for sending me those articles. I've read them
before. I do not agree with Dr Jeffrey Khoo on his view that the Heb. and
Gk. text behind the KJV is an exact, perfect copy of the original
autograph. Such a view would require a special, prophetic revelation from
God that the original autographs would be lost in the midst of the
apographs until the time of the 16th Century Reformation when, for the
sake of translating the Bible into the KJV, some scholars would finalize
an eclectic texts of the Hebrew and Greek languages, which would be the
exact copy of the original autograph. Such a prophecy is no where even
hinted in the Holy Scripture. Such an idea is extrabiblical, and a demand
to believe it in order to be saved would be heretical and another Gospel.
I don't believe Jeffrey would dare go so far. To suggest that the perfect,
verbally and plenary inspired Word of God was lost among the apographs
until the time of the Great Reformation is incorrect as it would suggest
that for more than a millennium God's people was without the perfect Word
of God. The perfect Word of God was never lost in this world at any time.
God always preserves His Word somehow, somewhere in this world. Just
because there are people who do not know what It is and where It is does
not mean that it is not there. Everyone must search and study to discover
it.
A belief in this view of Jeffrey Khoo implies the
cessation of lower criticism of the texts of Scripture. All bible
seminarians are taught how to weigh the value of different variant
readings comparing them and determining what the original autograph could
have been. Such a prayerful study of Scriptues can be very enriching and
can unearth much treasure which superficial approach to the Word of God
would never harvest. No true student of the Word would want this
meaningful exercise of lower textual criticism to be taken away from them
by the ascension of the Textus Receptus. Do not get me wrong, I do believe
that the TR is more superior than the texts used in the modern
translations. This conclusion is arrived at in the course of preparing
messages where I often compare the apographs which stand behind these
different translations. That the TR is superior does not mean that it is
the exact copy of the autograph.
From here let me comments on the statements you quoted
before.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Tang" <-----@yahoo.com>
To: pastor----
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:11 PM
Subject: 100%perfectKJV. Quotations of Jeff Khoo teaching another gospel.
> Dear ----
>
> Thank you for sharing with me what you think of the 100% KJV perfect
bible.
>
> The following are taken from two articles by Jeffrey Khoo. They must be
read in the context that if someone were to say that the variant reading
shows that the KJV has a scribal error, Jeff. Khoo calls him a liberal
doubting the bible.
The term "scribal error" is normally not applied to any
translation of The Holy Scripture, like KJV, but to the apographs. It
should be obvious to all that God never guarantee a perfect translation
for all time. The KJV is not the one and only, nor was it the first nor
last of English Translation of the Bible. So among all the translations,
who is to determine which one is the perfect English translation for all
time? It is simply a fact that any language goes through changes. Anyone
knows that there is such a thing a classic Greek and modern Greek; classic
Chinese and modern Chinese; etc. If the first English Tranlation is the
perfect English translation of all times, we will have problem reading it
to day. Some uninitiated English readers today have difficulty reading the
KJV, not to say the first English version of the Bible. To help the
readers to day to understand the Bible whenever they read it is a very
important thing. We can do that by Having another translation of the Bible
into modern English or to educate the people in how to handle the old
English. I doubt the church world today is in a position to do a good job
of the former, but the latter is something which local churches should
certainly look into to help their own members. Any way, all these are
besides the point. As a version of a translation of the Bible, the KJV
should never claim unique prominence above all other versions of all
different translations of the Bible. There was indeed a time when the
Vulgate (Latin translation of the Bible) was held in such esteem among the
scholars, but not anymore.
>
> "Can we afford to believe in a Bible that is less than perfect? If God
is incapable of giving us a perfect Bible, what makes us so sure that He
is capable of preserving our salvation to the very end? We are thrown into
all kinds of doubts. If we doubt our Bible, we might as well doubt our
salvation (cf 1 Cor 15:14-19)".(PFPB)
>
There are much caricatures in the above statements.
Whoever says that The Bible is less than perfect among conservative
faithful believers? Whoever say that God is incapable of giving us a
perfect Bible among us? Among the faithful who disagree with Dr Khoo, I
doubt there is any who doubt their Bible nor are doubting their salvation.
All these are Dr Khoo's own ideas of things. That there is no perfect
bible without the TR (or any text that stands behind the KJV) is an
erroneous idea. This should be obvious to all unless we want to consider
that there was a period in the history of the Church when the perfect
Bible was not around for God's people. There was indeed a period when the
TR was not around in the midst of God's people. The substance which form
the TR was around, but not the TR itself. And if consider that the
substance of TR being around constituted the presence of God's perfect
Bible in the midst of His people, why then the difficulty in saying that
the perfect Bible is now even preserved pure with us in the midst of all
the apographs? We should never deprive God's people of their calling to
search God's Word to the level of the lower criticism of the text of
Scriptures. Higher criticism of Scripture text is ungodly, but not the
exercise of lower criticism.
The assurance of our salvation does not lie in the
necessity to believe what Dr Jeffrey advocates. It lies in the knowledge
of the whole tenor of Scriptures as God's children compare Scriptures with
Scriptures under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Thus a child of God with
an imperfect translation of the Bible can also come to full assurance of
salvation. If this be not true, what would the Chin people of Myanmar do,
who only have a Chin Bible so poorly translated from inferior English
version of the Bible? We are not here advocating that there is no need for
a better translation for them, but that the Chin people need not be in
despair, but be taught to compare Scriptures with Scriptures and to be
aware of the weaknesses of their translation. For us who have the
wonderful KJV, we still need the same approach towards the Holy Word of
God, if we want to advance spiritually. Westminster speaks of this
approach in that chapter on Holy Scriptures.
>
> "God forbid that we should ever make this anti-biblical statement: "The
Bible contains mistakes and errors but they are so small and so minor they
should not cause us any worry." If the Bible contains error, no matter how
small or minor, I worry! "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet
offend in one point, he is guilty of all" (Jas 2:10). If a person says he
believes in a perfect Bible, and yet denies just one verse, yea even a jot
or tittle, he is guilty of denying all of the Bible."
> (PFPB)
>
To say that the KJV has some translations which are not
accurate when compared with the original Greek and Hebrew texts is not to
say that the Bible contains mistakes and errors. God's people would not be
troubled by such statements from a Minister of God's Word. That the
perfect God is pleased to use imperfect instruments for His glorious work
cannot be doubted. When the rich man in hell asked for a better instrument
in Lazarus to return to earth to speak to his five brothers lest they come
to the same place of torment, father Abraham said that they had Moses and
the prophets (refering to the teaching of O.T. by the priests and prophets
on earth), which are good enough. God used the imperfect Apostle Peter
instead of an angel to witness to Cornelius. As a people living in love
and truth, God's people can trust each other's godly judgments and have
confidence in the teaching and preaching of the Word of God. In reality,
how many of us are assured of heaven because we believe we have a perfect
translation of the Bible in our hand? If that is really required, I wonder
how much more comforted we will be. Christians not only study the Word of
God individually, but also corporately to know what that perfect Word is
for us. Majority of God's people study God's Word at the translations
level and not in the original Greek and Hebrew. This would be true of
Jeffrey's own church as well. Can most of their members trust the KJV
without having to declare it perfect without any question as to its
accuracy? How about Indian Churches, can they trust their Indian Bible
without having to declare their Indian version infallable? Jeffrey's view
is inherently problematic and he will discover it for himself in the days
to come. Rather than fighting for a special, divine status for the TR,
scholars like Dr Jeffrey Khoo would do well to demonstrate to us why the
TR is more superior (in approximating the autograph) as an eclectic text
as compared with the other eclectic texts used in other modern
translations. Meanwhile we need not doubt that we have the Word of God in
our hands in those translations.
> Divine providence has to be supernatural-God is a
> Perfectionist,........(EONFOB)
Heidelber Catechism Question 27: What dost thou mean by
the providence Of God?
Answer: The almighty and everywhere present power of God;
whereby, as it were by his hand, he upholds and governs heaven, earth, and
all creatures; so that herbs and grass, rain and drought, fruitful and
barren years, meat and drink, health and sickness, riches and poverty,
yea, and all things come, not by chance, but by his fatherly hand. Our
Perfect God does not govern this world in such a way that there is no
barren years nor sickness or poverty. Like Himself, God's Word is both
transcendent as well as imminent. It is only the splendour of light that
hides Him from us and not any imperfection in Him. Our perfect God is both
knowable and yet incomprehensible.
>
> Hindus and Muslims all believe that their Scriptures, the Bhagavad Gita
and the Koran respectively, are perfect. Yet Christians who claim to
believe in the one living and true God, the Creator of heaven and earth,
and Christ the only Mediator and Saviour of the world, are not so quick to
believe they have an existing infallible and inerrant Scripture.(EONFOB)
>
I read somewhere that the Koran has no variant reading to
day not because it did not have any in its early history, but that some
wise guy decided on the perfect text and consigned all other varient
readings to the fire. If Dr. Jeffrey Khoo has his way, all apographs
should be consigned to the fire except those that stand behind the KJV
tranaslation. Let Dr Khoo know that his fire would not be able to destroy
that one jot or tittle of God's perfect word, found in any of the other
apographs but not in those that stand behind the KJV. It is obvious that
God wants to preserve His perfect word in this world not in the same way
that the Koran is being preserved. It is for us to discern the wisdom of
God in the mode of preservation He had chosen for His Word. If any
Christian try to consign any of the variant readings in the apographs to
the fire, he or she better have a very clear mandate from God, lest he or
she finds himself or herself fighting against God Who said that not one
jot nor one title shall pass away.
>
>
> Indeed, if the Christian Bible is not perfect, infallible and inerrant,
"then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are
found false witnesses of God; . If in this life only we have hope in
Christ, we are of all men most miserable" (1 Cor 15:14-15, 19). (EONFOB)
>
This is a clear misquotation from the Bible. In 1Cor 15
the Apostle Paul was writing about the resurrection of the body and not
about the perfect bible. The Christian Bible is indeed perfect, infallible
and inerrant in the midst of the apographs and not in the TR by itself.
> "The Bible contains mistakes and errors but they are so
small and so minor they should not cause us any worry.” If the Bible
contains error, no matter how small or minor, I worry! "For whosoever
shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of
all"(Jas 2:10). If a person says he believes in a perfect Bible, and yet
denies just one verse, yea even a jot or title, he is guilty of denying
all of the Bible. Jesus warned,….”(PFPB)
>
>
KJV 1 Corinthians 15:
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which
I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I
preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also
received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third
day according to the scriptures:
There is no other gospel than the above one. If more is
required of us in order to be saved, it would have been the false Gospel.
By the God-given faith we believe the Gospel, repent of our sins and put
our confidence and faith in Christ.
May God give you wisdom in handling your difficult
situation.
God bless,
Pastor ----